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Old 26-03-2014, 06:53 PM   #31
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the key turns around in lock and it turns a magnetic file in that box,
same as programing a new blank key in a sertain amount of times the key takes on the code into it, don't no if you no that, but just had to say,
It's more likely to be a passive disarming inductive type pickup. Ford use a similar system, basically it just requires the fob to be nearby that little box (as it is when the key is in the ignition) to passively disarm the immobiliser. By passively, I mean you don't need to click the unlock button on the fob
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Old 26-03-2014, 08:18 PM   #32
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Richie08 yes I have synced the fob to the 5as, I think that's the one thing that seems to be working it must be some connection I have made somewhere that is not right I just have to work out which one. I wish I would of hold out for a unit out of a zr now it would of been easier with just the loom plug to work out
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Old 26-03-2014, 10:33 PM   #33
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I think I have found my problem in that I I'm missing the immobiliser ring thingy off the steering column, I have checked the 5as unit and found the 2 wires that should go to it which are slate/red and purple/pink! raspberry!!! I have tried just joining the wires together but that didn't work double raspberry if anyone knows how to get round this please

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Old 26-03-2014, 10:40 PM   #34
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As I said before, you don't need it to run the engine. I don't have mine wired in.
My engine was an 02 plate mgzr 160, so the same wiring as yours.
I think your issue will be either the wire from the 5as to the ECU or relay related.
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Old 27-03-2014, 07:24 AM   #35
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My old setup was flashed, so didn't use the immobiliser.
I'm running an Emerald now and that has an option in the menu to switch it off or on, expensive way round it though!
I'd look at getting it flashed and doing away with the function altogether.
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Old 27-03-2014, 07:54 AM   #36
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as said before you don't need the ring, I've done dozens of these looms now and not one has used the ring and they all work perfectly. (that includes rover 25,45, zr, zs, and tf looms)
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Old 27-03-2014, 08:38 AM   #37
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Listen to Mike (picKup), he wired his first EU3 engine 11 years ago and has done several of mine since. The ring is not needed but is just a nice to have.

You state earlier that you have power on the relay coils, I assume you mean positive.
Remember the ECU does its switching on the negative side so the ECU must be correctly connected to negative (earth). From memory I think there are several ECU earth wires.
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Old 27-03-2014, 09:06 AM   #38
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Just re read your post.
You say the starter relay is working but no others.
This is probably the " Main Relay" ie "98" in this pic.
http://www.mgfcar.de/schedules/sb10.jpg
I would double check the link to the ECU for this relay and its power supply.
Or is it the ignition feed to the ECU?
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Old 28-03-2014, 04:28 PM   #39
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I think the film was "When Harry met Sally" and they were in the diner as she was sat at the table putting on a fake orgasm and it went something like YES! YES! YES! my twist is I have worked the wiring out
here's a little clip just to show if you persist long enough you will make it work.

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Old 28-03-2014, 04:52 PM   #40
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Awesome news! Now crack on and get it driving
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Old 28-03-2014, 05:09 PM   #41
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Old 28-03-2014, 05:27 PM   #42
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Nice one!

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Old 28-03-2014, 06:01 PM   #43
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Cheers guys it does mean a lot the encouragement that people give works wonders when your back's against the wall and you can't see a way forward, now to get some fuel line in and get it starting then a rad and plumbing then it can be run up to temp.
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Old 28-03-2014, 07:04 PM   #44
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What was the issue in the end??
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Old 28-03-2014, 10:20 PM   #45
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It was a wire that I had marked up "to multi function unit" I forget what colour it is at the moment, tried it to earth then with a + feed and the 2 relays worked after a few seconds when the stepper motor had stopped so did the fuel pump then when I turned the key to start the pump starts again.
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