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Old 07-07-2008, 08:54 PM   #46
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Stop welding after 1.5 sec & start again for 1.5 sec etc etc leaving the metal to cool a bit between stops & starts, with a bit of practice you can produce some nice runs with good penetration.
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:06 PM   #47
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thanks for your help spNOam

ive followed wot u said and it worked a treat








as u see its taken well, tomorrow i just need to grind some parts back abite ,once panted imsure it will look sweet

as for penetration as u see below its def done that







next i need to fit the new outer sill would i be best to waxonol the inner sill first or will it burn when welding the new outer sill???? i could all ways spray some in after throw the inspection holes??????
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Old 09-07-2008, 07:34 AM   #48
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Project looking really good m8.

You should be ok with waxoyl in there. When I did mine I sprayed it all with weld through primer then masked up the areas where I was going to weld and applied two good layers of top coat then waxoyl and then welded the sill on.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:26 AM   #49
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Id give it all some paint first then squirt waxoil in the holes once welded up. Remember that the black paint on panels is a 'transport' paint and should really be rubbed down prior to paint.

Ive had some panels where it has been applied well and others where it has scratched off with my finger nail
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:39 PM   #50
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well i took your advice ludsonline
and went shopping for some weld throw primer ( melons me it exspensive , wel the wife thought so anyway lol )







as u can see from the above pics ive primed the out side of the inner sill and also along the seam on the inside of the car

next i tested the outer sill for fit, had to go with the dreaded over sills else u would see the join where the new inner sill joins with the floor (but at least seeing ive put them on my self i no there not on over a rusty old sill like they normaly are :- ) ) i must admit NOT the best fit



but once the hammer came out and a bit of reshapng they fit snug





had to do the same as with the iner sill as i still have no spot welde to had to pool weld it on but theres no way it will come off lol

once on i went rond with the other product i got today ,some seam selant



ran over it with some water to try and get a semi smooth finish



(the lumps in the pic are just thewater )

heres the finished look from out side



for my first ever change of inner sill, outer sill and heel board panel im very hppy with the end product

and as for the other side where im going to do all the same again hopefully it wil not take half as long

then once thats done ,and the boot floor and the air vents i can get on with the good stuff but t least once finished i no all the rust will also be done as well as the engine
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:28 PM   #51
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How come you've put oversills on? make sure you put some drainage holes in, or glug glug glug
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:23 PM   #52
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i no they always say over sills are bad as cover all kinds of sins, but seeing ive put new inner sills in no theres no rust or problems

if i had put proper outter sills on i would not have been able to cover he joins in the floor all u would see is this



as outer sill would not cover
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:44 PM   #53
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well its another day and ive found more holes lol

only had a couple of hrs today to play with her so not much done today, but saying that in the short time i had ,,,,,,it up set me lol

well first i started cutting the rest of the back seat and the remaining bin out



as u can see if u look in the corner theres a big hole



and thats all i got done today hardly worth posting lol

and this is wot i was left with in my garage



just a pile of rust and bitumen on the floor
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:48 PM   #54
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god i so cantwait till this body work bananas is all done so i can start posting some interesting stuff, and start her looking like a 16v mini
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Old 13-07-2008, 07:15 PM   #55
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WELL ITS SUNDAY AND I HAD TO WORK TODAY LOL

so i only had 3-4hrs of playing with her

i thought i would take the rest of the bitumen up off the rest of the floors to see if there was anymore areas that need attention



and there was to my horror !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



i was in 2 minds wether to weld a plate over it or to do it properly and cut the rust out and make a panel that will fit flush with the rest of the floor, my mate daz made me see reason that i may as well do it properly



so i cut the rot out !!!!

once the plate to repair the hole was cut i tacked a bolt to it so i could hold it just where needed as i tacked the plate in



then i seam welded it all up ,a bit at a time to make sure nothing warped
once finished i ground it back ready to prime it



gave it a good coat of zinc primer both sides



thaen i ran seam sealant round the welds for good measure



im in to minds now ref the other inner sill ,shall i replace the total inner sill or patch it ,as u can see below



tried to get a panoramic shot so u can see all the rust/rot/holes





but as u can see it did not quite work lol makes the sill look even worse pmsl

think at the end of the day i will end up putting the new complete innersill in ,if not i will never be happy knowing i did half a job lol

and in the long run it will cost me more as will need to do it all again in a few years!!!!!
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:34 PM   #56
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dont blame me?
its always better to cut the rust out than to just cover it over and forget about it as the latter norm makes it worse lol
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Old 20-07-2008, 04:05 PM   #57
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well ive been after a spot welder since i started this project but never have the funds to buy one

so after some research i found this on ebay



with that all i needed was a arc welder, after looking on ebay i started to bid on some arc welders (there as cheap as chips) and i won this





so was well happy esp as only cost me 43 so with the arc and my good old trusty sip gasless mig welder i thought !!!!!!!!i had all areas covered !!!!!!

but then the good old mig decided melons it and stopped working

so i was prity grapesed off antill my mate had a mig for sale, only used twice and not wanting to much for it (still broke the bank lol )



but at least now i have a proper mig that should do me for years
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Old 24-07-2008, 04:46 AM   #58
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I see the large Abingdon minis sticker in the window, would that be Abingdon oxforshire? If it is i have a spot welder you can borrow, I'm only in wantage. Might have to buy some 1/8th copper rod for electrodes though (its an old school one, so you have to time it you self). Also for removing underseal you want some of these!


I used 3 of these in my grinder and stripped the whole underside of my mini back to metal in 1 day! They also come in flat and cup shapes. Mill hill tools in Didcot sell good ones, the screwfix ones fall apart in seconds. Trouble is, once you clean the floor you'll find alsorts of nasties!
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Old 28-07-2008, 08:46 PM   #59
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well ive been after a spot welder since i started this project but never have the funds to buy one

so after some research i found this on ebay

so have u tried it yet then.....if so was it any good as i am on the lookout for a spot welder or an attachment of somekind
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Old 28-07-2008, 09:01 PM   #60
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hi again

ive been practicing with my new welder since igot it,(has so many setting i thought i bet get used to it before i go blowing big holes in the mini,by haing the settings wrong lol)

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