Austin Allegro K series VVC build. - Page 26

edk83 · 07-10-2018, 05:21 PM

Yeah I think he claims 180hp with them and breathing mods.

There is a forum thread about someone who fitted them and did a rolling road before and after, gained a little torque but no extra hp. They then fitted the dva dowels and got a 3hp gain lol

I've been told a remap is the key, I'm already running the '170' map but going to get a custom one done on the rollers soon. I can also see what happens with nos and might even dial it back some for reliability when on the gas.

will16 · 22-10-2018, 06:28 PM

Hi Ed, apologies if I've missed it but what brakes are you running on this? Is it the normal MGF set up on the front? How are you finding they stop you? I'm asking as I've got a project starting, which will be on 14's, trying to find the most effective 'standard' brakes I can get.

Outstanding build btw, quality work done by yourself

edk83 · 23-10-2018, 04:22 PM

Thanks

I'm running standard mgf 240mm brakes on the front and Allegro rear drums.
Obp pedal box with no servo, has a balance bar set to bias the fronts and I have a valve in the rear line as well.

They are hard work.

This weekend I swapped the generic front brake pads for some Mintex 1144 compound.

There is defiantly more bite and braking effort on them now, so pleased as they are not cheap!

Still looking into a Corsa sri rear disc conversion for the winter months, my 2nd hand obp fluid pots are weapy at the bottom seals too which is annoying. I have a new set that look to be a better design to go on but that means pushing all the fluid out and rebleeding, another job for the winter.

will16 · 24-10-2018, 08:51 PM

Appreciate the response, thanks! Haha, I'd imagine with no servo they require a fair bit more effort, I have m1144's on my mini and thought they were good. I'll look into the F set up, would be helpful as they have the same pcd. Corsa rear discs sound good, I was looking into zr rear beam setups

gadget555 · 25-10-2018, 10:30 AM

Sorry to hi-jack your thread EDK, Will I thought you were running 10" wheels with mini hubs on your car? if so the MGF set up won't fit as it use's the MGF front hubs, calipers & disc's so will only fit under 13" wheels plus the lower ball joint is a pinch bolt design where the ball joint is attached to the lower arm and not the hub. Here's and exploded view showing the components, I apologise if this is something that you have already looked in to.

https://www.angloparts.com/es/catalo.../3203?page=4#_

will16 · 28-10-2018, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadget555

Sorry to hi-jack your thread EDK, Will I thought you were running 10" wheels with mini hubs on your car? if so the MGF set up won't fit as it use's the MGF front hubs, calipers & disc's so will only fit under 13" wheels plus the lower ball joint is a pinch bolt design where the ball joint is attached to the lower arm and not the hub. Here's and exploded view showing the components, I apologise if this is something that you have already looked in to.

https://www.angloparts.com/es/catalo.../3203?page=4#_

Yes, apologies for hijack Ed

Thanks gadget, that is my mini setup but this is for a maestro! Its on 14's too, trying to get as big/best brakes as I can find, will be heavier than Ed's allegro however, thats a very helpful link too

edk83 · 29-10-2018, 05:20 PM

no worries lol

edk83 · 05-11-2018, 08:47 AM

It went for a thrashing on a dyno yesterday.

I'll take that for a little K series I think

gazwad · 05-11-2018, 03:31 PM

that's some strong numbers, nice result! i should have kept the nitrous...

edk83 · 05-11-2018, 05:09 PM

Thanks

Check out the torque curve on the nitrous

edk83 · 12-11-2018, 10:18 AM

Some pictures from the NEC this weekend

The Allegro club stand was in a good position this year, I also managed to get a sit in a GT40, orange wheels for the win! Harris Mann signed one of the cars when he visited the stand too.

edk83 · 14-12-2018, 01:50 PM

So I don't think the car will move much over winter but I've a few little jobs to do.

First is change the hydraulic fluid pots as they weep at the seals which is rather annoying, these were 2nd hand with the pedal box so I have a new set to go on.

Second is swap the awful sticking fuel filler cap for a fast flow screw type one, I could have made one but after some searching I found one with the correct bolt pattern in the USA. Just so happened my friend was over visiting so got one sent to her in Missouri and she's just dropped it round

Told her to keep hold of the packing slip otherwise it could look slightly dodgy on the xray machine!

Third job is a little more work, rear disc and hub conversion. I've offered up a Corsa sri rear stub axle and caliper, everything clears so it just needs mounting. I got a scrap arm and chopped the stub axle off flat, no way the rear circlip was coming out after 40 years! Now I can figure out the best way of mounting it, I can't bolt it as the bolt holes end up in the structure of the arm, looks like it might weld though.

edk83 · 20-12-2018, 08:55 AM

Fuel filler fixed, happy with the result. Had to get it from the usa as I couldn't find the right bolt pattern anywhere else.

edk83 · 07-01-2019, 01:59 PM

Replacement fluid pots fitted, annoying job but liking the newness.

05-11-2018, 08:47 AM	#383
edk83 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 594	It went for a thrashing on a dyno yesterday. I'll take that for a little K series I think Last edited by edk83; 05-11-2018 at 05:16 PM.

05-11-2018, 03:31 PM	#384
gazwad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: northampton Posts: 2,011 Subframe: Home Made CC: 1796 Make: Rover ECU: standard	that's some strong numbers, nice result! i should have kept the nitrous... __________________ my build: http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4887 https://youtu.be/X7O46JmFPh0

14-12-2018, 01:50 PM	#387
edk83 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 594	So I don't think the car will move much over winter but I've a few little jobs to do. First is change the hydraulic fluid pots as they weep at the seals which is rather annoying, these were 2nd hand with the pedal box so I have a new set to go on. Second is swap the awful sticking fuel filler cap for a fast flow screw type one, I could have made one but after some searching I found one with the correct bolt pattern in the USA. Just so happened my friend was over visiting so got one sent to her in Missouri and she's just dropped it round Told her to keep hold of the packing slip otherwise it could look slightly dodgy on the xray machine! Third job is a little more work, rear disc and hub conversion. I've offered up a Corsa sri rear stub axle and caliper, everything clears so it just needs mounting. I got a scrap arm and chopped the stub axle off flat, no way the rear circlip was coming out after 40 years! Now I can figure out the best way of mounting it, I can't bolt it as the bolt holes end up in the structure of the arm, looks like it might weld though. Last edited by edk83; 14-12-2018 at 01:53 PM.

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07-10-2018, 05:21 PM	#376
edk83 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 594	Yeah I think he claims 180hp with them and breathing mods. There is a forum thread about someone who fitted them and did a rolling road before and after, gained a little torque but no extra hp. They then fitted the dva dowels and got a 3hp gain lol I've been told a remap is the key, I'm already running the '170' map but going to get a custom one done on the rollers soon. I can also see what happens with nos and might even dial it back some for reliability when on the gas.

22-10-2018, 06:28 PM	#377
will16 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Abingdon, Oxforshire Posts: 205 Subframe: Home Made CC: 1796 Make: Rover ECU: K Maps 170	Hi Ed, apologies if I've missed it but what brakes are you running on this? Is it the normal MGF set up on the front? How are you finding they stop you? I'm asking as I've got a project starting, which will be on 14's, trying to find the most effective 'standard' brakes I can get. Outstanding build btw, quality work done by yourself

23-10-2018, 04:22 PM	#378
edk83 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 594	Thanks I'm running standard mgf 240mm brakes on the front and Allegro rear drums. Obp pedal box with no servo, has a balance bar set to bias the fronts and I have a valve in the rear line as well. They are hard work. This weekend I swapped the generic front brake pads for some Mintex 1144 compound. There is defiantly more bite and braking effort on them now, so pleased as they are not cheap! Still looking into a Corsa sri rear disc conversion for the winter months, my 2nd hand obp fluid pots are weapy at the bottom seals too which is annoying. I have a new set that look to be a better design to go on but that means pushing all the fluid out and rebleeding, another job for the winter.

24-10-2018, 08:51 PM	#379
will16 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Abingdon, Oxforshire Posts: 205 Subframe: Home Made CC: 1796 Make: Rover ECU: K Maps 170	Appreciate the response, thanks! Haha, I'd imagine with no servo they require a fair bit more effort, I have m1144's on my mini and thought they were good. I'll look into the F set up, would be helpful as they have the same pcd. Corsa rear discs sound good, I was looking into zr rear beam setups

25-10-2018, 10:30 AM	#380
gadget555 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Strichen Aberdeenshire Posts: 1,374 Subframe: Watson CC: 1800 Make: Rover ECU: K maps 160 Race	Sorry to hi-jack your thread EDK, Will I thought you were running 10" wheels with mini hubs on your car? if so the MGF set up won't fit as it use's the MGF front hubs, calipers & disc's so will only fit under 13" wheels plus the lower ball joint is a pinch bolt design where the ball joint is attached to the lower arm and not the hub. Here's and exploded view showing the components, I apologise if this is something that you have already looked in to. https://www.angloparts.com/es/catalo.../3203?page=4#_

29-10-2018, 05:20 PM	#382
edk83 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 594	no worries lol

12-11-2018, 10:18 AM	#386
edk83 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 594	Some pictures from the NEC this weekend The Allegro club stand was in a good position this year, I also managed to get a sit in a GT40, orange wheels for the win! Harris Mann signed one of the cars when he visited the stand too.

20-12-2018, 08:55 AM	#388
edk83 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 594	Fuel filler fixed, happy with the result. Had to get it from the usa as I couldn't find the right bolt pattern anywhere else.

07-01-2019, 01:59 PM	#389
edk83 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 594	Replacement fluid pots fitted, annoying job but liking the newness.