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Old 22-10-2018, 11:46 AM   #16
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I knew I'd seen something somewhere about changing rods for rose jointed items.
I'll stick the link here, might help someone in future.

http://www.davebence.co.uk/mods_3.htm

Damn sight easier with the gearbox out of the car
That link isn't working for me
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:10 PM   #17
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Has anyone got pictures of the cut out needed for the R65 linkages into the car?!
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:15 PM   #18
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Do these help ?







All taken from this build thread

https://www.16vminiclub.com/showthread.php?t=5992
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Old 10-12-2018, 04:12 PM   #19
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Has anyone got pictures of the cut out needed for the R65 linkages into the car?!
I thought you were using the IB5?
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Old 19-12-2018, 11:13 AM   #20
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Thanks Oz that's perfect! No using the R65 for better or worse, had a lot of the R65 bits given me for next to nothing and I already had the shafts. Kind got committed to that decision then for better or worse.
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Old 19-12-2018, 11:20 AM   #21
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oh from what I've read here i also believe that the PG1 box is a lot harder to fit under a roundnose non-flipfront? Anyway - committed now like I said
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Old 20-12-2018, 07:06 PM   #22
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oh from what I've read here i also believe that the PG1 box is a lot harder to fit under a roundnose non-flipfront? Anyway - committed now like I said
I am sorry but you are wrong here. Dunno where you got that information.

The R65 box has the starter motor on the front of it. You will struggle getting the standard unit in the space. There is an aftermarket motor which is much smaller that fits. It's just about 150.

The PG1 has the starter on top of it so no issues at all with that.

I would also check which R65 box you have. The ratios are all the same. Only the final drive is different. They come in 3.9, 3.7 and 3.5. The most suitable one for road use is the 3.5 from a 1.1 petrol Rover Metro.
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Old 21-12-2018, 07:29 AM   #23
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I am sorry but you are wrong here. Dunno where you got that information.

The R65 box has the starter motor on the front of it. You will struggle getting the standard unit in the space. There is an aftermarket motor which is much smaller that fits. It's just about 150.

The PG1 has the starter on top of it so no issues at all with that.

I would also check which R65 box you have. The ratios are all the same. Only the final drive is different. They come in 3.9, 3.7 and 3.5. The most suitable one for road use is the 3.5 from a 1.1 petrol Rover Metro.
Defiantly an easier box to fit in a round nose and in general as no bulkhead mods are required.
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Old 21-12-2018, 12:37 PM   #24
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You don’t need to cut the bulk head to fit an r65 box you can cut down and weld up the leaver on the box so it clears the bulkhead
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Old 21-12-2018, 01:31 PM   #25
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Defiantly an easier box to fit in a round nose and in general as no bulkhead mods are required.
I cannot understand this comment.

Neither box needs bulkhead modification.

Simon has chosen the R65 box. That's fine

There is no need to post incorrect things about the PG1 to justify that.
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Old 21-12-2018, 04:32 PM   #26
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What’s the hole in the bulkhead for on this one then? Many people have to make a small box in the bulkhead for the linkage of the R65 to have clearance. Is this not a bulkhead modification?
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Also the top arm pin requires modifications with a R65 and not with a pg1, less metal has to be removed from around the suspension tower with the pg1 although with the pg1 more metal gets removed near the diff housing.
I personally found the pg1 a lot easier to fit in the standard round nose than the r65. Having made frames for both gearboxes how is it incorrect information I’m posting?
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Old 21-12-2018, 05:29 PM   #28
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I think AGoaty and Peskett are getting their wires crossed!
AGoaty was saying the PG1 is an easier box to fit and I thought you was agreeing with him when you quoted his post, but it looks like AGoaty thought you were disagreeing with him.
You both actually agree the PG1 is easier to fit.


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What’s the hole in the bulkhead for on this one then? Many people have to make a small box in the bulkhead for the linkage of the R65 to have clearance. Is this not a bulkhead modification?
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I think AGoaty and Peskett are getting their wires crossed!
AGoaty was saying the PG1 is an easier box to fit and I thought you was agreeing with him when you quoted his post, but it looks like AGoaty thought you were disagreeing with him.
You both actually agree the PG1 is easier to fit.
Ok I admit being defensive when we both had the same ideas.
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