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Old 26-11-2016, 05:24 PM   #61
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That didn't end well!

He couldn't MOT it as it was too low to go on the rollers to test the brakes apparently!

Anyway, good points:

Power and noise, plenty of both of them. I was only just using the weight of my foot on the pedal to keep at at 30 I didnt at any point feel like I was pressing down on the pedal!

Gearing is spot on C ratios with 3.6 final drive

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Steering is far too heavy.
Steering lock with rack limiters is pineapple, its a 3 point turn to get out of my drive!
Brakes are useless
Windscreen wipers dont clear the screen even though they're new
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Old 26-11-2016, 05:34 PM   #62
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I've had both front calipers off today as I thought they might have seized after being stood still for so long, thats how bad they felt, but no both pistons in both calipers move fine, theres no problems with the hydraulic side of things.

I cleaned the discs and gave them a light sand to scratch the surface. I started to think maybe I forgot to wipe the grease off when I bought them? Or somehow Ive spilt something on them.

I was using Mintex 1144 pads, which from what I know should be fine for road use but I've changed these for another set I had lying round (EBC Ultimax I think) encase there was something wrong with the pads. I haven't tested it out yet.
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Old 26-11-2016, 05:39 PM   #63
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For the steering, instead of feeling heavy when stationary and lighter when moving, this feels just as heavy when driving as it does stationary. I've had the front jacked up and the steering is smooth, it doesn't feel like theres any problems with the rack. Could this be caused by an excessive castor angle?
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Old 26-11-2016, 05:45 PM   #64
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For the steering, instead of feeling heavy when stationary and lighter when moving, this feels just as heavy when driving as it does stationary. I've had the front jacked up and the steering is smooth, it doesn't feel like theres any problems with the rack. Could this be caused by an excessive castor angle?
Tight balljoints when under the weight of the car??
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Old 26-11-2016, 10:01 PM   #65
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Shame you cannot get MOT done.

The brakes will just need using. Mine are terrible with new pads. I'm using Mintex pads and they work well on the road or track. I'd say it will take 50 - 100 miles before fully bedded in.

If the steering is heavy, try a bigger diameter steering wheel. As for the turning circle, that's what rack limiter do I'm afraid.
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Old 27-11-2016, 06:13 PM   #66
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That didn't end well!

He couldn't MOT it as it was too low to go on the rollers to test the brakes apparently!

Anyway, good points:

Power and noise, plenty of both of them. I was only just using the weight of my foot on the pedal to keep at at 30 I didnt at any point feel like I was pressing down on the pedal!

Gearing is spot on C ratios with 3.6 final drive

Bad points:

Steering is far too heavy.
Steering lock with rack limiters is pineapple, its a 3 point turn to get out of my drive!
Brakes are useless
Windscreen wipers dont clear the screen even though they're new
you will get there!!
did the mot man take your cash then do test to find out he couldent test brakes??
did he seem to be a utter kont?? did he have polished boots and a speshal hair jell and look in the mirror,
bit odd him saying its too low,, I had some silly low and never unable to sit in the rollers,,
ask him what he dose in the event of not being able to test brakes?
mention> a decelerometer,
if he is just a kont try a old school helpful garage
about your brakes,> not shure im with you on changing mintex for a random
I thinks!!
but eather way as said they need a dam good bashing with heat on road,
book mot late in day and use time before that allows you to drive to pre booked mot, drive along with left foot on brake,
stiff stearing can be made by bad geometry of ball,joints ect but maybe don't bother with that yet until on road and mot,d
try to bend your wiper arms over so spring is stretched,
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Old 28-11-2016, 09:29 PM   #67
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Most MOT stations only have single axle rollers for brake tests. Which is ok for front or rear wheel drive. But anything with permanent 4 it would bust the diff so they test on road with the deceleration tester Shaun mentioned. I know this as one of my cars was too low for the rollers and this is how they tested it - worth asking any MOT station you plan to use if they have the kit


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Old 28-11-2016, 11:03 PM   #68
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To be fair to them, I got my money back.
I'm not sure if he was telling the truth or if he had seen how much had been done to it and didnt want to go near it so made up an excuse.

I came back and he said the brakes are pineapple the steering locks pineapple and is far too heavy. He did mention a decelerometer test but said it would fail that anyway. (They are bad). I got the impression he found those problems and then couldn't be peachd with it.

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Old 28-11-2016, 11:07 PM   #69
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Reading that last post with the swear filter cheered me up a bit anyway! haha
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defo kontsvile..
change your mot staition, its not his job to right your car off without doing the test,
with instant girl like critasisam,
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