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Old 24-08-2008, 10:20 PM   #1
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Default Richspecs Rebuild - Trackday Weapon!

It was asked for so here goes...

First a bit of history.
My Red Hot had evolved from a 998 through a selection of 1380's and a turbo conversion to an XE in an AMT road frame, it was one of the first on the road but not one of the first frames, and i went to loads of shows, trackdays etc and always had LOADS of interest, always directing people towards Andy (AMT).
I even met a certain MattG who can blame me for his obsession!!!
Does that mean this sites my fault too
The various stages of evolution are covered on my website:
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which really needs updating!

It finally ending up looking like this:


It had changed quite a bit since the feature in Minimag, but the shell was getting increasingly tired and i wanted it to be more track and less road use.
To this end i was looking for another shell as to do what i wanted to the existing shell was asking a bit much, and was gonna cost a small fortune.

At about that time Stu, a user of the forum (the first one?) had decided to sell his ongoing project and I'd been following the work he'd done and decided to buy it all

So a deal was done and i went waaaaaaaaayyyy down south to collect:






This is the original add text and what i brought home

Brief
This Mini has been extensively modified to accommodate a Vauxhall 16v "Red Top" engine and transmission. We have used an AMT Raceframe as the basis (no point reinventing the wheel)
Nothing has been sacrificed in this project, probably the main reason why it has cost me so much and I ran out of money!!
Bodyshell
The bodyshell is believed to be from the c1998 and is completely rust free, it has been extensively modified with the full installation of a "Works" rollcage designed using aerospace technology using fully seamless tubing. The rear end of the car has been tubbed to allow the fitment of 2.25" fully adjustable coilover shocks.
Further strengthening has been incorporated into what was the rear seat squab, subframe mountings and of course the drivers seat mount.
Incorporated is a custom mount for a "Reverse mount" pedal box with split braking cylinders with the ability to adjust brake bias.
A built for purpose Gearstick and handbrake mount has been made to accommodate the alloy hydraulic handbrake and the Quaife gear stick.
The boot floor has been modified to accommodate a Curley Composites flat carbon/kevlar floor which holds the 8 gallon polycell fuel tank.
Specials
Included in the sale are various special parts these include;
Custom made seats using a Corbeau shell and trimmed in dark grey.
Quaife gearstick as seen in all top race and rally cars.
Formula 1 radiator, originated in the sidepod of an Arrows F1.
Big brake system using 4pot Billet calipers and 280mm XDrilled and Grooved disks and Poly Pads for Very fast road/competition (this set up cost in excess of Ģ800 to have made.
Custom beam axle and modified radius arms.
Vauxhall XE Engine and Box and 2 sets of injectors (original ECU if required)
Included
8 Gallon "Jaz" Poly Foam Filled Fuel Tank
Wilwood Reverse mount 2 pedal assembly inc 3x remote reservoir cylinders
Custom Fabricated accelerator pedal
Custom Brake setup using 4pot Billet calipers and 280mm discs
Brand new, still wrapped Sparco suede steering wheel
Avo ProRace shocks for each corner including springs
Removable steering wheel hub and custom steering column
Alloy hydraulic hand brake assy.
AMT Raceframe (Cost Ģ1200)
4x original Superlite 7x 13" including BRAND NEW Yokohama A008 Tyres
4x original Superlite 7x 13" (no tyres) - Put your slicks on these!!!
BRAND NEW - Swivel Hub Disc Type and mounts
Minisport Superfin Drums
Allegro 1750 CV Joints
Steering Rack
Quaife GM Gear Stick assm
Footwork Arrows Aluminium Radiator
Curley Rev 3 Kevlar/GRP Head Support Seats
Carbon/Kevlar Boot Floor
Custom Rear Beam / Rad arms / Shox / Brakes
Seatbelts 6point Aircraft buckle LUKE harnesses (cost Ģ120 each)
Pair of lightened steel doors
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Old 25-08-2008, 08:21 AM   #2
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Great stuff, cant wait to read the updates
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Old 25-08-2008, 10:55 PM   #3
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So the new shell was squeezed into the garage and i started to make a list of what i needed to buy etc!


At this time i was still running the 'doner car' as a more or less daily drive.
I quickly realised i'd need a trailer to take the 'racer' to trackdays and the like so after a lot of searching a decent project trailer was bought, with a bit of work it was soon fully legal.





It needed a bit of welding and I moved the front axle forward as it was way too nose heavy

Next the mot etc expired on the road car so set to stripping it down and selling what i could.





I sold the cage easily, its since been in another magazine feature and the road frame was sold to a friend from the NE.
The rest was stored away. someday I'll find it all

Then work started on the new rolling shell fitting the bits i stripped off.
My throttle bodies on the upside down independant manifold fouled the frame, or at least the linkage did.


With no bulhead like before finding somewhere for the wipers motor and washer was needed next.
The washer went under the wing with a feed through into the engine bay for the tube, in a perfectly sized hole already there!


Pump on the inside on a wee bracket.


And the wiper motor and modified tubes on the underside of the scuttle again on more fabricated brackets, all these stupid fiddly brackets are what takes the time
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Old 25-08-2008, 11:04 PM   #4
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Loving the retro build diary and am looking forward to the next installment.
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Old 26-08-2008, 06:22 AM   #5
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Lovely! Itīs going to be at serious track machine when done

Btw, is that a young MattG in the flamed hat eating chips

keep it up!
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Old 26-08-2008, 08:36 AM   #6
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Is it any faster than before?? does that mean you'll keep up with me on the motorway now?? :P

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Old 26-08-2008, 08:50 AM   #7
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Lovely! Itīs going to be at serious track machine when done

Btw, is that a young MattG in the flamed hat eating chips

keep it up!
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and is that tony wells car to the left in a previous life??
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Old 27-08-2008, 08:42 PM   #8
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Is it any faster than before?? does that mean you'll keep up with me on the motorway now?? :P

M.
HA HA!! that was a laugh...
but no! I'd have to take too many brave pills....and i really really need my driving licence nowadays

Next installment will be friday when i'm home.


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Old 27-08-2008, 08:52 PM   #9
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Interesting angle on the front coilovers. How does that handle? Only asking cause I'd like to bring the offset of the wheels in a bit, and it's not possible with the standard AMT set up bolted to the inner wing.
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Old 30-08-2008, 10:48 PM   #10
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Interesting angle on the front coilovers. How does that handle? Only asking cause I'd like to bring the offset of the wheels in a bit, and it's not possible with the standard AMT set up bolted to the inner wing.
no idea, as its not driven with this setup yet.


This frame and suspension setup is quite a bit different from the road frame and 'normal' coilover setups.

The rear coilovers are inclined and mount where the cage meets.


And the front top arms are different to the road frame with the coilover lower bracket as part of the arm.


I had four different bootlids to try, 3 fibreglass and the original metal one, i tried all the 'glass ones and the fit was pineapple, so i went with the steel one for fit and security, but decided to lighten it a little, i could have done more but got sick of it!


The doors came already cut out, all i had to do was trim and tidy up, and alter the opening lever position and rods.



I started to mock up what would go where, mounting my old fuel pump and running the rear loom through to see how it was going to fit.


The braided hose i had was run and p clip postions sorted.


Under the bonnet i had a look at the full width deep bulkhead box and the 'tray' that the ecu was going into, I had to cut the box 'floor' into two sections to make inspection of the pedal box or ecu easier.





The Dta ECU was mounted in the tray and holes cut for the various bits of loom to go through.


The coilpack was fastened to the bulkhead box floor, I'll need to get some long leads.
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:59 PM   #11
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The coilpack was fastened to the bulkhead box floor, I'll need to get some long leads.
Sure you are already aware, but anyway, if you plan to buy some, then I would recommend Magnecor. I used them for mine and they were very good.

http://www.magnecor.co.uk/

Surely there must be some more pictures, its almost been two full weeks since the last lot!!! :P
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Be sure there is some space between the coilpack and ecu

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Old 11-09-2008, 10:16 PM   #13
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The coilpack was fastened to the bulkhead box floor, I'll need to get some long leads.
Sure you are already aware, but anyway, if you plan to buy some, then I would recommend Magnecor. I used them for mine and they were very good.

http://www.magnecor.co.uk/

Surely there must be some more pictures, its almost been two full weeks since the last lot!!! :P

Yep, i've got the magnecor form here to fill in with all the lengths etc.

Yes there are more pics which i post maybe this weekend, and I've even had the chance to work on the car , making progress with the wiring.

Marcus, why the question about the ecu and coilpack?
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:09 AM   #14
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Could be wrong - but I'm guessing you might get some interference probs with the ECU close to the coilpack - could give some odd effects.
Looking like a nice rebuild though - its gonna be a nice track car when its done - think I met you at Elvington years ago when it was in its previous life - was there with a few mates doing a track day in shared 205gti
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Marcus, why the question about the ecu and coilpack?
Rich is correct, with my dis system it is recommended to separate the coilpack/ecu with atleast 6 inches for the purpose of reducing electrical noise in the ecu…

Have a peak here: http://electromotive-inc.com/pdf_files/xdi_manual.pdf

tells you everything about selecting sparkplugs, leads, gaps, sensor alignment etc, etc

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