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Old 01-05-2012, 10:57 AM   #1
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i was looking into buying an allspeed frame as it uses standard suspension without needing to cut anything to install it etc, and as far as i thought it didnt use rose joints like the Minitec frames

under further inspection it does infact appear to use rose joints

cany anyone suggest another brand subframe that keeps the factory suspension and in paticular use no rose joints and keeps the same "track" as origional ?

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Old 01-05-2012, 01:37 PM   #2
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i agree with your thinking,its not a definative answer but i have fited rose joints onto stander mini frames.not for me but for custamers that wanted the bone crunching hardness that comes with them,lol but i cant remember well enuff how i did it ,it was back in 1991. can you ask the frame makers? seems a good place to start, some one on hear will know the answer but the issue is better taken up with the suplyer,they charge enuff so should get the job right,
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:14 PM   #3
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i think you misunderstand ? im looking for frames without rose joints

as the MVR here in Australia doesnt allow it for non race use
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:19 PM   #4
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talk to allspeed ,as he has shipped frames to Australia ,so he must have customers ( if they are not on here ) that have done it ...

is it the rose joint that is the problem ? or the throught they might be welded bottom arms ?
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ahh sorry,my rose joints are fitted to the arms firstly,but the frame has docking pionts for them,so the frame maker should be able to make the docking pionts for the standerd ones.i hope ,lol
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:38 AM   #6
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ill speak to alspeed, i need arms that are the same type as the orgional mini ones.
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Old 02-05-2012, 04:44 AM   #7
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his newer lower arms are one piece billet. his older ones used old mini ones, and he welded a threaded bung on to accept the rose joint. bith are rose jointed. he told me the design of his rose joints are like that because of other countries like new zeland who wont accept the screw adjust rose joints on inspection. by screw adjust means theres a big bolt on the back side of the rose joint that you tighten or looseten to extend or retract. his design makes you remove the whole arm and unscrew manually then re-install.
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Old 02-05-2012, 07:38 AM   #8
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the problem our MVR has with rose joints on road vehicles is the rose joints wear out alot quicker than the standard joints
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:22 AM   #9
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the problem our MVR has with rose joints on road vehicles is the rose joints wear out alot quicker than the standard joints
shame that is not that true with these conversions , std mini suspension was never designed for 200 bhp .. pretty sure rubber bushes would not last long ! lol

anyway .. not many of these minis do many miles anyway .. let alone see a road ! lol

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Old 02-05-2012, 05:32 PM   #10
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may have to get the frame and then mod it for the reg size bushing and get some poly bushings

cut the metal and then re-weld it in a hair over
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