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Old 13-02-2018, 04:58 PM   #1
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Default Rover 100 bottom arms - do they fit a metro?

So it's these that caught my eye:

http://www.force-racing.co.uk/produc...spension-arms/

I was wondering... do any of you Rover nutters know if these bad boys will fit my watsons frame as a direct replacement for the metro item? Rubber cones, not coilovers... If that makes any difference.

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Old 13-02-2018, 05:02 PM   #2
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They do look the right type to fit but having rose jointed items where the rubber bushes would go will mean a harsh ride.

As for the price, WOW!
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Old 13-02-2018, 05:30 PM   #3
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they will fit
also these ones have to be taken of to adjust caster or camber i will be having a pair made shortly so will let you know the crack with them
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Old 13-02-2018, 07:51 PM   #4
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As for the cost why not ask if they can be made in steel ?
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Old 13-02-2018, 08:00 PM   #5
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They do look the right type to fit but having rose jointed items where the rubber bushes would go will mean a harsh ride.

As for the price, WOW!
Thatís a very good point, I didnít even think about that. I saw shiny things and got all excited.

Will wait to see what this good fellow above has to say about them. For a road car vfast?
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Old 13-02-2018, 08:06 PM   #6
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As for the cost why not ask if they can be made in steel ?
I was just thinking about removing weight from the front. That metro wheel & MGF brake conversion is a fair bit heavier than the mini one. I was thinking of maybe getting a few sets of ally front hubs made up too... possibly a group buy. Iíll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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Old 14-02-2018, 08:43 AM   #7
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I think you are overthinking this . Get the conversion done and on the road first and see what needs doing after that. There are people on this site who've been running Watsons set up for many years, some in competition and I've not yet heard anyone saying there is an issue with un-sprung weight.
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Old 15-02-2018, 10:22 PM   #8
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what about rear subframe ? is there anything out there that fits a mini rear subframe that brings the wheels out more ? at least then if your using a watsons front subframe the wheels will be sticking out like the front ones
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Yes, Metro rear trailing arms. You need to fabricate a new outside trailing arm bracket and a lower damper mount to get it to work tho
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Old 16-02-2018, 02:09 PM   #10
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Yes, Metro rear trailing arms. You need to fabricate a new outside trailing arm bracket and a lower damper mount to get it to work tho
Or if youíve got money to burn you could buy the rear beam and disc conversion Watsonís sells, think itís about £800+vat though
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Old 16-02-2018, 03:29 PM   #11
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Or if youíve got money to burn you could buy the rear beam and disc conversion Watsonís sells, think itís about £800+vat though
and I think that does not include the brakes/hubs etc (VW Golf), you have to source them separately (or I guess Geoff will supply them as well at extra cost).

The Watsons spacers do the job although are not liked by some (I've seen many an argument go round in circles about whether they do or do not increase the leverage on the rear bearing when using high ET wheels)

MarkD did spacers that fit between the Mini trailing arm and the brake drum that are another option. I just don't know how often he makes a batch.
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Old 16-02-2018, 09:17 PM   #12
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MarkD's rear stub axle spacers are a great idea and great bit of kit to get away from the 55mm Watson's spacers and are of a comparable price to what Geoff charges for a new pair of spacers! To put it into perspective I priced a piece of 5" dia X 200m round bar from the good old bay of E which is enough to make 2 75mm spacers (I know this is bigger than the standard ones that Watson's supply) but I wanted to make the rear the same width as the front, but when I went round the local machine shops (I live near Aberdeen the oil capitol of Europe) and explained what I wanted they want silly money to make them so gave up on the idea. I might message Mark D and see if he's still making them then fit a more reasonable 1" spacer which should give the rear the same width as the front metro frame.
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Old 16-02-2018, 09:18 PM   #13
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I already have spacers on the rear... some homemade ones which will be getting replaced with Watsonís spacers shortly.

I do plan to go down the rear beam disc brake route at some point but for now Iíve just gone for ally rear hubs and minifins.
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Old 16-02-2018, 09:28 PM   #14
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Same here at the moment with the minifins.
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Old 16-02-2018, 09:31 PM   #15
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See here there was a guy selling some at the beginning of the year might be worth a shout nearly half price! http://www.16vminiclub.com/showthread.php?t=37849
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