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Old 09-08-2017, 06:52 AM   #2386
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there should be plenty of room to put a tube/box section under the webbing like i did, unless the exhaust or gear linkage sit really close to it? I removed the webbing on mine as with the bottom tube and a top brace it wasn't doing anything anyway and fees up a bit of space for running hoses etc.
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:56 AM   #2387
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Thanks for the pics, going to have a look at clearances and see if I can get a solid tube in there, if not I have another idea to add extra webbing which I know will work, would definitely prefer to have something a bit more structural there though.


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Old 09-08-2017, 12:31 PM   #2388
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there should be plenty of room to put a tube/box section under the webbing like i did, unless the exhaust or gear linkage sit really close to it? I removed the webbing on mine as with the bottom tube and a top brace it wasn't doing anything anyway and fees up a bit of space for running hoses etc.
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I like how simply your top suspension arm supports are.. At the moment my passenger side has no support downwards! this is the only weak link with my sub frame. Will try something similar but its tight with driveshaft/gearbox.

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Old 10-08-2017, 06:25 PM   #2389
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:59 PM   #2390
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It's taken a while for me to find these photos.
Here is the strengthening bar I added underneath mine. Is a piece of CDS halfed lengthways and bent to fit. I didn't weld this part in using my jig. Big mistake! Took a lot of heating and a 5 ton ram to get it all back into shape. Subframe inderside by Ewan McLean, on Flickr

You can also see here where I welded what was left of the bulkhead part of the min subframe to the strengthening bar between the towers.
Subframe in primer by Ewan McLean, on Flickr

Now that should be solid enough! They fit strut braces for a reason you know.
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Old 11-08-2017, 04:07 PM   #2391
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I see in the 2nd pic you also filled the area between the webbing for the floor mounts, I planned on doing that also.
Appreciate the pics, thank you all.
I'm dropping the subframe off for vapour blasting next week so it's back to bare metal, from there I plan on making the repairs and upgrades as well as upgrade to red dot cones.
I've fitted a new Sportpack rack so the steering is limited, only as on full lock I used to get a little rubbing.


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Old 11-08-2017, 05:31 PM   #2392
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be wary of the currently available steering racks (bare aluminium colour) even the ones being sold as genuine as supplied through x-part. the quality is very very poor. I have thrown three away myself and not found a single one without faults.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:42 PM   #2393
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I went with a MiniSpares one hoping to get something of some quality.
http://www.minispares.com/product/Cl...ck%20to%20shop
What issues were you having?


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Old 11-08-2017, 06:04 PM   #2394
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Not good if your getting a bit of chafing!!! fanar fanar
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:07 PM   #2395
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Talc didn't seem to solve it!


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Old 12-08-2017, 02:05 PM   #2396
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had 2 of those from minispares, one had loads of play in the bush and was clonking like mad, the second was very notchy from poorly machined teeth. the other one I had was identical but from a different supplier and had both problems. In the end I found the best option is to use an original rack and replace the bush and if necessary the track rods & gaitors, although if there is no play in the track rods (not track rod ends) then keep the originals. There aren't any decent quality racks available at the moment, even 'genuine rover' new racks are now pineapple aftermarket but supplied through xpart. If there is nothing wrong with your current rack then keep it, if there is some play in the bush then just replace that.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:38 PM   #2397
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Ah pineapple, I've removed the old one, there's actually nothing wrong with it, would benefit from some better fitting gaitors but otherwise it's fine, I just wanted the sportspack rack to stop the rubbage at full lock. (I know I could just not turn the wheel that far but I still do)
I think I'll check it over closely and maybe fit it and have a feel for anything and hope they've addressed the issues, otherwise I'll refit my rack with some limiters.


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Old 13-08-2017, 01:30 AM   #2398
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rock/hard place, i herd and seen poor modern racks worce than the ones taken off,
if only you knew if it was ok
i just cant trust some modern stuff or sellers
so tempted to fit your original rather than gamble,
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Old 16-08-2017, 07:22 PM   #2399
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Right, an update to the steering rack!
I checked it over on the bench and all seemed well so I fitted it, I've just refitted the steering column and all seems smooth, no clunking or notchiness from lock to lock, I feel I've either been very lucky or the issues have been addressed by the manufacturer. I've taken the liberty of replacing the friction material on the U-bolts and putting a new foam seal where the steering rack and column meet seeing as it was completely non existent.
I have also taken this opportunity to do away with the old style steering drop bracket and fit a Retrosport billet one instead.
I knew the old style brackets were renowned for being a bit flimsy but i never realised how much until now! The Retrosport bracket is absolutely rock solid.


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It's taken a while for me to find these photos.
Here is the strengthening bar I added underneath mine. Is a piece of CDS halfed lengthways and bent to fit. I didn't weld this part in using my jig. Big mistake! Took a lot of heating and a 5 ton ram to get it all back into shape. Subframe inderside by Ewan McLean, on Flickr

You can also see here where I welded what was left of the bulkhead part of the min subframe to the strengthening bar between the towers.
Subframe in primer by Ewan McLean, on Flickr

Now that should be solid enough! They fit strut braces for a reason you know.
That's a beast of a frame

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