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Old 22-01-2010, 05:03 PM   #1
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Default Custom Exhaust manifolds (Headers) for allspeed standard length setup

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I phoned a custom exhaust place who was recommended to me on my last car (mr2 turbo) Hayward and Scott who are in basildon essex to make an exhaust manifold for my allspeed B16a2 standard nose. They said they already have a jig there for this setup as they have made these before for a guy called Matt, so I'm presuming this is the old 16v shop manifold supplier?? I'm sure someone will confirm? Now thats luck

Popped up there yesterday and placed my order, they quoted 4-6 weeks but after march they do get seriously busy. Price is 550 plus vat. Best bit is they've got a jig so no need to take your car up there aslong as its for a B16a2.

Excuse my lack of techincal know how but its a 4-2-1 and is 1 3/4" at the flange?? 2" at the bends half way down?? and finishes with 2 1/2", I'm having a slip on reducer made so should I choose to use a 2" exhaust I can.

Anything you need to know just ask for Ian and say Kam sent you.

Credit goes to MattG though so cheers as I was hoping to get a manifold without having to trailor my car due to hassles etc and really wanted the old shop one but missed out, but now found
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Old 22-01-2010, 08:02 PM   #2
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is 550 cheap for a stainless manifold?

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Old 22-01-2010, 09:18 PM   #3
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People were paying I think 600 for the old 16v shop ones? Called maniflow and they quoted around 600 but they need the car.

It seems the going rate. Rob at allspeed said this aswell.
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Old 23-01-2010, 02:45 AM   #4
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Not to bother you but i think it is crazy money for an exhaust manifold. Got mine on ebay for 60$US + 60$US for shipping. Might need to cut at flange to get closer to the block, but at this price who really cares...

Also came with all gaskets and a nice Test pipe they call it to replace the CAT. Real stainless as no magnets would stick to it and they are really well fabricated. The Tig Welding on them are perfectly made. Just can't figure ou how they do their money. With the change rate , 550GBP would do arount 900$US...ouch!
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Old 23-01-2010, 02:50 AM   #5
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just as an exemple: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...Q5fAccessories
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Old 23-01-2010, 03:57 PM   #6
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That one in your link is a 4-1, I wanted a 4-2-1

Of course its a crazy price especially just for a manifold!! Custom stuff is expensive for a reason but it is made from scratch and purpose built for the allspeed frame.

I'm sure I can hunt around and find a 4-2-1 and then take it to a place and get them to cut the head runners short so that it hugs the block but I can't imagine this would be that cheap for someone to do which would save me hundreds? I'm guessing they would probably need the car aswell to keep checking the fitment. This way I can order on the phone as I know it fits without any of the other hassles.

This was not posted to advise people this is the cheapest your gonna find if you want to use the allspeed frame with a standard length nose, it was posted so people knew that the shop manifold is still around to help out.

I'll leave it to the mods if they want to delete this topic or keep.

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Old 23-01-2010, 06:51 PM   #7
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I totaly understand what you mean. No need to delete this post.
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Picked up my manifold today, got it with a 2 1/2" into 2" reducer made aswell















For people that dont know this is the old 16vmini shop manifold, its still about if your good at fabrication like me
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Old 09-04-2010, 08:47 PM   #9
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Nice

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Could you use the reducer the other way round to blow through like a trumpet

Nice work

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Old 13-04-2010, 10:36 AM   #11
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I dont think 550 is out of the way for a custom manifold.
You can buy all sorts of cheap cRap on ebay but the manifold is one of the most important things on a b-series as far as power goes.
Getting primary/secondary lengths and diameters wrong can seriously effect your power and where it is!
If you are converting a car to vtec/vauxhall whatever, there seems no point if you are going to scrimp on a cheap manifold in my opinion!

My car, albeit a Metro vtec, is actually in JP Exhausts (Macclesfield) as we speak, having a manifold made up. I have given them all the measurements to mimic a TODA manifold and Im paying 500+VAT.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:15 PM   #12
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here is my custom one made for a D series
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:25 PM   #13
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Looks good mate. They look like the ones made out of Stainless sold on ebay. Did you build it from scratch or is it one you modified ?

If so what mods have you done to it?
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Has anybody used this manifold on a B18C as I know they are taller?
I assume if I were to phone them they would have no problems adapting to the extra height.
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Old 13-09-2010, 08:38 PM   #15
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Don't know anyone that has, maybe MattG might know?

As you say, they can add whatever the difference in height is anyway
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