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Old 11-12-2017, 08:45 PM   #1
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I'm thinking of making a kart out of an MX5 or a E46 BMW coupe, i'm wondering if it would need IVA if you cut the body off since its still the original chassis and would hit all 8 points for radically altered, obviously it would have wheel covers, lights, indicators and the usual stuff for an MOT but would it need IVA i wonder...

some thing like this...



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Old 11-12-2017, 10:01 PM   #2
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Old 12-12-2017, 09:32 AM   #3
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Matt Farrah drove one of those (or similar) on track recently on his youtube channel... By all accounts, a nearly pointless endeavour. You retain most of the weight lost by removing panels by adding a roll cage and you lose all aero resulting in a slower car as an end result.

Sorry to p1ss on your chips, it's worth a watch if you haven't already seen it.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:07 AM   #4
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Roadkill made a Corvette Kart

Looks like mega fun, might be slower but will feel faster!
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Old 12-12-2017, 02:35 PM   #5
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Matt Farrah drove one of those (or similar) on track recently on his youtube channel... By all accounts, a nearly pointless endeavour. You retain most of the weight lost by removing panels by adding a roll cage and you lose all aero resulting in a slower car as an end result.

Sorry to p1ss on your chips, it's worth a watch if you haven't already seen it.
yeah i saw that, all he kept saying was "it's sketchy" lol



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Old 12-12-2017, 06:39 PM   #7
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would definitely need an IVA to be legal, that is a VERY modified monocoque body. Where it states that un-modified chassis do not require and IVA it only applies to cars with a completely separate chassis (i.e body bolts on) such as a land rover etc.
Anything with a monocoque chassis can not be modifed (significantly) without requiring an IVA.
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Old 12-12-2017, 09:18 PM   #8
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lol >remove a pefectly good body to add a argriculreal tube must have a reason lol
i cant think of a reason !! mad max buzz possably and wind, must be fun tho,
in a weard way,
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Iíve been toying with this idea for a while. I was looking into doing one with a mx5. Just for a bit of a laugh really. Would be good fun in the summer and a bit of a drift toy. You can get good power out the mx5 engine by fitting a td04 turbo. I would have been under the impression that as long as itís got all the right bits still on it to pass an mot it would still be road legal. Getting a mot would be the easy bit just winging it with the police if you were to be pulled over might be a bit different.


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Old 13-12-2017, 01:16 AM   #10
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would definitely need an IVA to be legal, that is a VERY modified monocoque body. Where it states that un-modified chassis do not require and IVA it only applies to cars with a completely separate chassis (i.e body bolts on) such as a land rover etc.
Anything with a monocoque chassis can not be modifed (significantly) without requiring an IVA.
Think you're right there.

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lol >remove a pefectly good body to add a argriculreal tube must have a reason lol
i cant think of a reason !! mad max buzz possably and wind, must be fun tho, in a weard way,
if you track a car chances are you're going to have a cage AND a body, if you just have a cage you're saving the weight of the body, Some of these are weighing in as little as 500-600kg which is pretty decent after the body chop. you have to remember they're not as light as Mini's to start with
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your original pics are growing on me, i think its the 2 sided spikey roof that seals it,
as you say the body removed will weigh qwite a bit,
i was thinking that to replace with bars will take some doing and save weight, its possable,
i wonder if the one in the pic is on the road? dont think the boney front would be alowed in the modern day,, after the cow catcher/bull bar scair? but that seems ok now,
cant see a way of fitting a ,lets say safe ,,lol glace off bumper?
well its poss but to make it fit and look good is a tuff job maybe,
are you shure its not one of your hot chick photo shoot plans,?
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your original pics are growing on me, i think its the 2 sided spikey roof that seals it,
as you say the body removed will weigh qwite a bit,
i was thinking that to replace with bars will take some doing and save weight, its possable,
i wonder if the one in the pic is on the road? dont think the boney front would be alowed in the modern day,, after the cow catcher/bull bar scair? but that seems ok now,
cant see a way of fitting a ,lets say safe ,,lol glace off bumper?
well its poss but to make it fit and look good is a tuff job maybe,
are you sure its not one of your hot chick photo shoot plans,?
The second image (BMW) is road legal but in the US so not sure how it would fair here, although i would have made the exo a little different.

About the chick... this was the last one i shot with... https://www.instagram.com/sophiebmodel/ i haven't done any personal work in a while, just no time but that does sound like a good idea
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would definitely need an IVA to be legal,
^^^ No further discussion on your original question 100% correct
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Maz I can take the pictures into work with me if you want and run them by the IVA team. I’m in our Head Office in a fortnights time.
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