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Old 14-09-2017, 05:42 PM   #1
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Old 14-09-2017, 06:10 PM   #2
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bloody stupid idea. there's enough badly maintained death traps on the road as it is and if you maintain your car to a safe standard the mot is not an inconvenience anyway, the only people to gain from this is those who don't look after there classics to a safe standard and don't want a big repair bill at mot time.
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Old 14-09-2017, 06:59 PM   #3
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I doubt it will be of much use to anyone here, they will class them as substantially modified as they will almost certainly be making more than 15% more power than what they were when they left the factory with.
I can't agree more with Gaz, I'd rather know my car is safe to drive than guess that I'm maintaining it correctly.


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Old 14-09-2017, 09:18 PM   #4
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Agreed. We can all play with our cars, but an independent eye on brake tester etc can only be a good thing. I looked this up today and the only way you can get enough 'points' to qualify is with an un-modified shell / chassis. So hybrid subframe means the car won't qualify.


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Old 14-09-2017, 09:44 PM   #5
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This is been in the pipeline for a couple of years now, it was supposed to start last May but brexit put it on hold. The whole point is that the EU don't mot cars over 30 years old and they want to bring us in line. The study shows that mechanical failure on cars over 40 years old cause a much lower portion of fatal accidents compared to newer cars and people tend to look after them. I suppose that could change if the law changes and people use it as a reason to drive an old car, maybe not though reliablity issues would outweigh the cost of not needing an mot I'd say thats why they went for 40 not 30 years.

The study even looked at the co2 emissions of the yearly drive to the testing station for the number of cars registered as well as the cost, mot tests are non profit.

It looks like they are opting for self declartion rather than a forced inspection for modifications though, extra power mods pre 1988 are not counted either, but the 8 point system still applies for everying else. They do mention that some safegaurds will be in place, but are not letting on much else yet. Time will tell but I think it will just end up being an extra tick box on the form to apply for historic interest status.

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Old 14-09-2017, 10:25 PM   #6
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Yes I totally get your car safety points but that's always dificalt to controll same as drunk footballers smashing up there fararies! Or some dangerass people who make bad mistakes ect extra , I do agree but I like this if it happens a EA
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Old 15-09-2017, 05:27 AM   #7
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We are also going this route 2018. cars 50 years old, bikes 40 Will be mot free, i think its great! Saves time and money
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Old 15-09-2017, 11:35 AM   #8
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I think itís naive and potentially dangerous for us all. There will always be some that abuses this system and will drive an unsafe vehicle, either because they canít afford the repairs at the time or donít have the know-how to do the repairs and will still drive amongst us all. I also think this system is a can of worms about to be released for modified vehicles
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Old 16-09-2017, 01:12 PM   #9
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I think itís naive and potentially dangerous for us all. There will always be some that abuses this system and will drive an unsafe vehicle, either because they canít afford the repairs at the time or donít have the know-how to do the repairs and will still drive amongst us all. I also think this system is a can of worms about to be released for modified vehicles
true, and not to mention the unforeseen life threatening issues like rusted out brake lines or suspension mounting points that might never get seen. there will always be a proportion of the general population who will abuse the system, both intentionally and without intention.
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I am in the Isle of Man and we have never had annual MOT's for any cars.
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When this goes ahead we will be likely stuffed for using our cars on the road without actually officially breaking the law by not ticking the 'The vehicle has not been radically altered' box when applying for tax from next May.

Fully expect any car that has the box ticked will then be singled out for further inspection. There's little to no chance of getting a mini through a BIVA unless you substantially modify even the stock parts to meet the regs.

This 'radically altered' applys if there is in excess of a 15% power to weight ratio increase so will apply to us all

May not bother with the rebuild now, save funding and wait to see just how screwed we all are by the establishment yet again before spending any more cash.
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Old 18-09-2017, 08:58 AM   #13
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This 'radically altered' applys if there is in excess of a 15% power to weight ratio increase so will apply to us all
The document doesn't mention anything about that, only that the points system will be used. where have you seen the 15% increase specified because if that's the case then all the cars i will potentially ever own will be stuffed
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Old 18-09-2017, 08:59 AM   #14
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I am in the Isle of Man and we have never had annual MOT's for any cars.
Thats it, i'm moving the Isle of Man. its all the reason i need
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Old 18-09-2017, 09:06 AM   #15
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