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Old 18-07-2016, 01:15 PM   #1
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Default Spaceframe Mini chassis using MGTF subframes

http://www.speed3automotive.co.uk/Default.aspx

I came across this that might interest some people













Admittedly the styling on the body shell may not be to everyone's taste but ABS do fibreglass spaceframe shells so I guess there is options
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Old 18-07-2016, 09:34 PM   #2
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I don't like the body at all but that frame looks decent!! I want one


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Old 19-07-2016, 12:28 AM   #3
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wher dose the engine go?
thanks for the link Austin but as all to often it looks like its a frame the size and weight of a house just to cover up isigoneses desighn,
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That looks like a good spaceframe - BUT then you consider the weight, the cost and the dramatic body shell.

Seems like if you bought all their installation kits it would cost a fortune?
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:28 PM   #5
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wher dose the engine go?
In the rear frame. If you consider it like a kit car for an MGTF donor rather than a true Mini spaceframe and it makes a bit more sense as there's actually almost zero Mini in it but as we use Metro/MGF frames I thought it might interest a few people with MGTF donors and a rusty Mini shell as an alternative
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I don't like the body at all but that frame looks decent!! I want one
Imagine your turbo lump in one of those or is that what you are already doing
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:32 PM   #7
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That looks like a good spaceframe - BUT then you consider the weight, the cost and the dramatic body shell.

Seems like if you bought all their installation kits it would cost a fortune?
Its typical kit car, sell you a basic chassis and then charge for the parts to put it together !

I think if you had a complete donor MGTF, access to Mini parts (like glass etc) and a taste for DIY then you could probably do it for not too much over the basic frame cost
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The concept is a great idea. The MG TF subframes are a very good setup. I know when I do track days the TF's hold the road really well.

When I had mine, it was hard on the suspension, much like a Mini. Not sure how that will feel or drive with a body half the original weight. I would imagine very harsh indeed.

You are right about the turbo K series being ideal for that. No issues with using standard exhaust manifold in there! If they have made the body to suit then an standard exhaust from a MG TF would work a treat.

Shame the link doesn't work for me as interested to see the price...
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in the rear frame. If you consider it like a kit car for an mgtf donor rather than a true mini spaceframe and it makes a bit more sense as there's actually almost zero mini in it but as we use metro/mgf frames i thought it might interest a few people with mgtf donors and a rusty mini shell as an alternative
yes i see, looks good realy, shame its nearly able to have 2 engines,
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Old 20-07-2016, 08:27 AM   #10
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yes i see, looks good realy, shame its nearly able to have 2 engines,
I'm sure with some tweaks it could
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Shame the link doesn't work for me as interested to see the price...
BASIC CHASSIS KIT
MIG welded space frame chassis constructed using 45mm and 38mm CDS tubing with ERW box section for the floor and main tunnel, including front chassis under tray bracket.
Welded in seat belt anchors, steering column and handbrake lever bracket.
Chassis powder coated black.
Nut and bolt pack.
Price: 2850 Inc. vat

FRONT SUB FRAME KIT
Modify customers MGTF front sub frame to fit new chassis. Shot blast and paint gloss black. Based on an exchange basis.
Price: 195 Inc. vat

ALUMINIUM PANEL KIT
16 SWG pre-cut aluminium panels for front and rear bulkheads, floor and tunnel.
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Price: 320 Inc. vat

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Tried the link again and works now.

I still like this. I assume at around 6000 for chassis and body it's not an expensive kit car.

I wonder if it would pass IVA though. No chance of an old Mini V5 being used here....
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The model page on their site say for track or road so I presume they are possibel to be made road legal
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I've gotta say I've looked back at this a few time since posting and I cant help wondering whether with a few slight tweaks to the tunnel structure it would take a turbo Vtec with CRV running gear in the front frame and the CRV diff in the rear frame, then lower on a steel mini shell (I don't like FG space frame shells) and weld it all together and its a bonkers fast and strong 4wd Mini that can take silly power and with the MGF running gear it'll put it down well. The flat floor also means you could look at adding aero...
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I've gotta say I've looked back at this a few time since posting and I cant help wondering whether with a few slight tweaks to the tunnel structure it would take a turbo Vtec with CRV running gear in the front frame and the CRV diff in the rear frame, then lower on a steel mini shell (I don't like FG space frame shells) and weld it all together and its a bonkers fast and strong 4wd Mini that can take silly power and with the MGF running gear it'll put it down well. The flat floor also means you could look at adding aero... :twisted
I can see a new build coming along here OZ. Not that you need a faster car with a 40mph limit...
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