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Old 03-01-2018, 01:47 PM   #1
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Hi

I am new to the forum and about to start rebuilding our 1978 Mini Clubman which we bought as a part completed non runner last year.
The plan is to rebuild the car as a Retro classic with modern brakes, Suspension and of course a Rover 16V engine and gearbox.
I have had the engine rebuilt and updated and am now looking for someone to refurb the gearbox to make sure it is all ok before refitting into the car.
Can anyone recommend a company that can do this preferably in the midlands where I am based.
This forum is fascinating and full of very talented and brave people.

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Old 03-01-2018, 02:39 PM   #2
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Hi Mark.

I cannot recommend a gearbox builder near you sorry.

You haven't stated which box you have. This is a crucial time to get the right box and ratios.

Most of us on here are using the PG1 gearbox. If you are only at the planning stage I would recommend you do the same. The box can withstand more power and is easier to source.

Trying not to be negative but for the work involved fitting this, you want the best performance and reliability.

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Hope this is helpful, Andrew.
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Hi Andrew

Thank you for the advise how can you tell which gearbox I have as there are no part numbers visible ?
The guy I bought the car off said that the guy he bought it off had used the sub frame and complete engine and running gear off a Metro GTI but he may not have known!
Thank you in advance.

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If itís a Metro then itíll be an R65, if the starter motor is at the front then itís an R65, if itís at the rear of the gearbox then itís a PG1.
Depending on your plans then it may be ok sticking with the R65, but if you ever plan on going for a 1.8 or VVC then itís worthwhile building the subframe to suit the PG1 now.


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Old 03-01-2018, 08:23 PM   #5
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The 1.4 Rover Metro came as an SPi and an MPi. The early, SPi ones were 90bhp, later MPi were 96bhp. Same basic engine just tuned differently. Most obvious difference is the SPi has a central mounted throttle body. The MPi has a long plenum and throttle body on the end.

Neither of these engines are remappable unlike the later MG ZR/Rover 25 fitted with same engine without the distributor and produced 105bhp.

Dan is right, the R65 is perfectly usable but most people would prefer the more performance of the bigger engine as the work fitting this is exactly the same as a lower powered unit. The R65 is quite well geared for 13" wheels as that's it's normal use in the Metro.

Ok, so you have the 1.4 Metro engine and box. Which subframe are you likely to use? Most of the frame makers seem to base their frames around the R65 box. It's very easy to modify them to accommodate the PG1. The gear linkages also is far easier to make on the PG1 and the clutch is stronger too!

p.s. thanks for adding the info.

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Old 04-01-2018, 09:14 PM   #6
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Hi Andrews and Instant custard

Thank you for your replies, my gearbox is indeed a R65 and the engine is a 1.4 lightly tuned and running on MBE management with Jenvey throttle bodies.

The project is with my 19 year old son so we won’t be going for big power more a retro look.

The front subframe is a modified metro including brakes and coil overs.

We want to fit a flip front for easy access and have bought one from arc angels.

We will start a build thread and try to keep it updated.

On a side how do you make a photo image small enough to use on my profile name?

Regards Mark

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In order to get a picture on your profile info you need to reduce the image to the maximum size of your custom image is 120 by 90 pixels or 19.5 KB (whichever is smaller).

You will have to do this on your own. Programs such as Paint or Photoshop can do this.

The image is called an Avatar. Use the edit Avatar button in the User CP panel.
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