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Old 29-05-2018, 06:09 PM   #601
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Rollering can work well on some cars (it's very popular on the VW T25 van/camper), but I don't think I'd fancy trying it on a fiddly curvy Mini! Glad I have a good spray setup.
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Old 31-05-2018, 06:53 AM   #602
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Nice , it's a great feeling being able to get rolling !!
Spraing got silly exspenceive, !! Like plumbers!!
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Old 31-05-2018, 12:41 PM   #603
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Rollering can work well on some cars (it's very popular on the VW T25 van/camper), but I don't think I'd fancy trying it on a fiddly curvy Mini! Glad I have a good spray setup.
There's no comparing the finish for quality, but if you save yourself a grand by rollering instead of spraying then that's a grands worth of petrol and front tyres to get out and enjoy!

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Old 31-05-2018, 06:46 PM   #604
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There's no comparing the finish for quality, but if you save yourself a grand by rollering instead of spraying then that's a grands worth of petrol and front tyres to get out and enjoy!

Looking good Andy.
Cheers Paul.

As you are all aware, Phoenix was built to use. It's never gonna be in concourse. Cheap fixes keep this on the road where others struggle.
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Old 04-06-2018, 11:20 AM   #605
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The paintwork looks good in the photos! What's it like for stone chips and protecting from rain?
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Old 04-06-2018, 01:48 PM   #606
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The paintwork looks good in the photos! What's it like for stone chips and protecting from rain?
It's never going to be as good as a 2 pack paint as that's tough stuff. You also have seen that it goes out in all weathers and get some stick when it's out too. I have not seen one stone chip anywhere on the car. It's starting to rust in places but as it's all parts from second hand cars that I will not pay premium rates for, so they could be rusting from the inside out. I think it's pretty good.

I don't take close up photo's as there are brush marks and roller bits in the finish. Even if it was painted every year to maintain this finish, I would be happy but it's not up to a lot of people's standard.
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Old 05-06-2018, 06:29 PM   #607
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The paint to use for rollering is Rustoleum. ISTR there is a 20+ page thread on it in one of the VW T25 forums - the technique for getting a good finish is apply, allow to dry, flat back, recoat, repeat a few times then buff the final flatted coat. Which is why it lends itself better to the large flat areas of a VW T25 than to a little curvy Mini!
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Old 06-06-2018, 09:50 AM   #608
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If it's being rollered on, could you not use 2k? From what I've read, it's only a problem when the paint mist is airborne.
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If it's being rollered on, could you not use 2k? From what I've read, it's only a problem when the paint mist is airborne.
2K cures too quickly to roller. And too hard to flat back to get a good finish. Its advantage is that the high-gloss finish comes from the original cured finish - which is why you see so much "orange peel" when its sprayed badly.

I do spray it as I have an air-fed mask, but it gets everywhere and sticks to everything, especially the floor!

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Old 06-06-2018, 04:35 PM   #610
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I don't think my reasons for doing this are to achieve the best finish. It's simply to make it not go rusty! If it has a shine to it that's a bonus. It keeps PC plod from looking twice as blast past with my cherry bomb exhaust.

The roof is painted using gloss paint from my local DIY shop and is same I have painted the cladding and bits of the garage roof!

If you look again at the pictures I have also got in bother for getting it on our drive (near passenger door).

I can tell you doing it outside was nice for me but I do appear to of added a few flies to the paint finish.
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MOT time. Passed, nothing to do. An advisory on a tyre at 3mm tread. That's it.

I am actually having a problem though with the tower bolt to front subframe. There is a right bang when I hit a pot hole. I investigated this and eventually found the tower bolt wasn't tight. It's meant to have a rubber washer in it. On tightening the bolt, the rubber disintegrated out of the side of the bolt. It took 2 full turns to come tight again.

I drove the car again an all was ok for a month but now the bang has come back. I checked the bolt and is tight.

My thinking is that now there is no rubber washer, it's reached the shoulder of the bolt. It's tightened up, but not clamping the subframe to the shell.

I need some thick washers under the bolt head to resolve this.

Also, modern car stereos don't seem to be able to deal with bouncing about in a Mini. I am on my third in 2 years. It's dry so that's not an issue but the circuit boards keep breaking. My latest one (I bought from someone who got from China for a quid) powered up but right speakers were on/off then left did same but now no sound. Replaced the head unit for a known good one and it's not my wiring, another unit broken.
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Old 04-08-2018, 11:37 AM   #612
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You can get solid mounting kits for the front subframe. http://www.minispares.com/search/cla...e%20mount.aspx

As for the radio, cheaper models don't handle rough treatment as well as name brands. But I wonder if it's possible to create a "shock mount" using the casing from a multi-cd changer unit?
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Old 04-08-2018, 11:56 AM   #613
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Sorry, didn't post that very clearly. The subframe already has solid mounts between the body and subframe.

The rubber washer that has degraded is under the head of the bolt so is visible when tightened.
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That's the rock an roll caused by no front to top support,
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Sorry, didn't post that very clearly. The subframe already has solid mounts between the body and subframe.



The rubber washer that has degraded is under the head of the bolt so is visible when tightened.


You can get solid washers for under there too Andrew, I always thought it was the rubber between the subframe and body you were talking about.


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