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Old 06-11-2018, 10:08 AM   #1
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I'll very soon be getting to the stage where I am building up my removable steel front end (wings and front panel - bonnet to open normally but using Minispares quick release bonnet hinges.

I'm not sure the best way forward as the front will be pretty heavy and so some advice would be really helpful if any one can assist ?

The "minitec" up and over hinging is not really possible as the front end is being built to only be removed once in a while for major work (hence why the bonnet opening is staying standard) as I don't want to cut the wheel arches. They'll be removed before front can come off.

So far I have decided that a return lip on the inside of the A panels and the wings would probably be best to fix there and a couple of riv-nuts in the inner wing drip channel to bolt the wings down there but it's the front mounting that is causing me headaches.

From what I can see I have two options:-

1) Flip front hinges so the front can be tilted forward then slid sideways on the pivot bolt and removed and when refitting the front hinges re-engaged with the pivot bolts and the front end slid sideways back again in to position then flipped down. My concern here is there is a return on the back of the wings where it buts up against the scuttle panel and I'm concerned that this will bind on the scuttle. Has anyone done a steel front hinging flip front and can assist ?

2) weld captive nuts in to the crossmember of the subframe and bolt the front end to the crossmember using the standard front subframe mount holes with a plate behind for the bolt. My concern with this is lining up the front when refitting. I don't want to use studs sticking out of the front of the frame like some people do so that they can locate the front then slid the front end in to place. The only thing I could think of would be to make up some aligning studs that I could screw in to the captive nuts that could be fitted temporarily to align the front and then once the front is bolted in place at the A-panels and inner wing drip channels then the studs can be wound out and bolts then put in.

Any help, pics and advice would be great

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Old 06-11-2018, 10:25 AM   #2
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I have a couple of round pipe that line up with the pear drop mounts, donít have a pic of the front panel but Iíve cut away the rear of the mounting point on the front panel and welded in a sleeve that fits snug over those 2 bars.


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Old 06-11-2018, 10:26 AM   #3
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Cheers Dan but its not what I'm really after as I'm trying to avoid having anything poking out of the front valance, hence why I'm looking at bolting in to the subframe using captive nuts.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:25 PM   #5
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They hang out quite far now but by the time I trim those back there wonít be anything hanging out the front panel, they look long now because Iíve left them until I weld together the steel front and get it fitting right and I need to weld in the sleeves to the rear of my front panel.


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Old 06-11-2018, 01:28 PM   #6
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A totally removable steel front is the way ahead! Get your shapes correct at scuttle and wing joints but don't make fixings yet , mole grip it onto A panel return so your happy!
Support front with something ,so your happy ,
Get down to the 2 holes in valance and drill 2 holes , 1 in each , 12 mm will do, use stainless thread bar and attach to frame , however you want,
You will benift from the 2 studs sticking out ! You will find out later why, don't try to have a bolt (in) system as it's a total pain !!! Stud and nut is the best way, I no you don't want things sticking out , so shorten them later , last off all ,after you have made the back fixings,
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Old 06-11-2018, 04:57 PM   #7
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I did come across this when Googling for ideas lol !!

Classic Mini mit Flip Front by Kay, on Flickr
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That's a very nice waist of time lol
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